Yes Neil the tool does have a point. If you look at Steve's graphics you will see that it has a diamond shape face, but I have noticed that after a few beers this can look flat
![Smile[2]](/images/smilies/top smiles/smile[2].gif)
The angle of the face I think is 45 degrees, this can be steepened by up to about 10 degrees for harder metal.
Phil